tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-188390756370405242.post5456144996828604082..comments2023-03-28T20:53:51.212-07:00Comments on The moar you cry the less you pee: Blurring the linesPinky Feldmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14743850109590575848noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-188390756370405242.post-88155336692652546042012-03-06T04:58:08.726-08:002012-03-06T04:58:08.726-08:00Oh man, good story about EM and the Winmatar Milit...Oh man, good story about EM and the Winmatar Militia. Thanks for sharing. IMO it really goes to show the issue why RP of any sort has a hard time fitting in with EVE, which is how poorly RP of any sort fits in with EVE's game mechanics and the nature of the game itself.Pinky Feldmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14743850109590575848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-188390756370405242.post-20002801986794385682012-03-05T11:58:19.146-08:002012-03-05T11:58:19.146-08:00"For example, Agony Unleashed has an anti-pir..."For example, Agony Unleashed has an anti-piracy policy fr their pilots."<br />Well yes, but again, Agony is based in nullsec. Sec status hits and GCCs for them are not an issue so long as they remain in their nullsec turf.<br />I agree that having a good working knowledge of lolsex, sec mechanics, etc, is vital to a PvP existence in this game, period. Even if you live mainly in null, chances are you cross low at some point to get between high and home.<br /><br />Also, the anti-pirate groups I've seen are a lil more strict than "thou shalt not steal or ransom, or be flashy" -- I've seen some corps that are basically "thou shalt not be neg sec status at any time for any reason, nor shalt thou fire unless fired upon."<br /><br />I guess it gives them some sense of :smug: or :moralhighground: or something? Guess you'd have to drag a few in here to explain themselves to us? Should start with Electus Matari...lol.<br /><br />Susan Black (gamerchick42) posted a long while back about how she and her corpies are flashy. They shoot anybody. Well they were in a Min Militia fleet, roaming and looking to shoot Amarr militia. Well an EM fleet encountered them, started shooting the flashies in the Min Militia fleet, and were asked to desist by the Min Mil FC.<br />When they didn't, the rest of the militia fleet opened fire on the EM guys and popped them. Apparently this led to much drama and many :RPtears:, etc.<br /><br />Then again, at least they lived up to their "anti-pirate" stance, even if it meant getting popped. Most of the "anti-pirate" corps I've seen say "anti-pirate" but really mean "no pirates allowed" -- they won't actively search out, fight, or attack flashies either, unless attacked first.Hong WeiLohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14702284760088727892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-188390756370405242.post-5867662796652162042012-03-04T03:12:22.818-08:002012-03-04T03:12:22.818-08:00See, I used to think that for the most part as wel...See, I used to think that for the most part as well, until I started looking and realizing how many "new" player groups have anti-piracy rules. For example, Agony Unleashed has an anti-piracy policy fr their pilots. I understand the importance of this from the standpoint of you don't want your pilots going below -2.0, but at the same time as part of the new player experience its an important thing to learn and be a part of.<br /><br />As far as the new player experience is concerned, you really have to learn by doing, which can be harsh but at the same time its quite confusing. I recall it took me almost a year to figure out what I could and could not shoot at with enough comfort that concord or gate guns wouldn't come after me.Pinky Feldmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14743850109590575848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-188390756370405242.post-66800560362508289172012-03-03T12:55:20.073-08:002012-03-03T12:55:20.073-08:00i always felt anti-piracy was solely an RP thing, ...i always felt anti-piracy was solely an RP thing, like hong said.Truen1ghthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14658827203515387622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-188390756370405242.post-43669483012201363192012-03-02T22:33:27.153-08:002012-03-02T22:33:27.153-08:00"but it just gets downright absurd when that ..."but it just gets downright absurd when that same group goes on lowsec roams only to shoot at pirates and refuses to shoot at non-flashy gangs until they aggress first, even though they're probably there to pew in the first place."<br />lol I went on a CAS Combat Guild Roam the other day... they are same engagement policy "we're not GCCing, only shoot flashies or if aggressed first."<br /><br />I think the whole sec status/GCC thing is kinda fucked to begin with... and honestly it's a big part of the reason I went to null -- guilt-free PvP. No worries about sec status and grinding back up, etc, just go forth and pew whatever's not blue.<br />One of my way earlier blog entries was about this very topic -- how pretty much if you wanted to be involved with PvP but not have to worry about being flashy or grinding sec status back up, you basically had two options: sov warrioring, or faction warrioring, or joining one of the alliances active in NPC null.<br /><br />Then again, EVE's definition of "piracy" is pretty shitty overall too. I could have a hundred reasons for GCCing vs someone in lowsec, and 99% of those have NOTHING to do with stealing loot or holding the ship/pod for ransom (which are really the only acts that constitute "actual" piracy in EVE).<br /><br />Really, "anti-piracy" is a kind of a death rattle, the last agonal breaths of "lolRP" in EVE.<br /><br />I used to have a lil cutesy thing in my bio about the fact that the difference between NRDS and NBSI was 4 extra mouse clicks, and that's about it. <--- I still think this is true. lolHong WeiLohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14702284760088727892noreply@blogger.com